Over Thanksgiving I had an interesting conversation with a woman we’ll call “Aunt Rose” who is a relative of a relative.
I’ll preface this story by telling you about a previous conversation that I had on Thanksgiving Day when we lunched with one side of Charity’s family. After the meal one of her uncles ventured an inquiry about me.
“So Andy, what do you do?” he asked as he turned away from the flat-screen TV above his fireplace.
“I’m a graduate student in political science.”
“Oh” he stated flatly and then he turned back to the TV.
As we pondered the commercial on the screen, the “conversation” between the uncle and I brought to mind the discussions that Charity and I have been having recently about whether or not our job titles are intimidating to people. I don’t understand why a student making $12,000 a year is intimidating to anyone, but apparently the mention of my job was enough to squash that conversation.
So the next day when Aunt Rose asked me what I did in a corner of another house I tried a different tact.
“I teach political science and international relations” I replied amiably. Then recalling the previous day’s conversation I grasped for something more concrete and added, “I teach about the first and second world wars.”
Upon hearing this comment Aunt Rose gathered herself, leaned forward, looked at me intensely and said “They lasted three and a half years each.”
I’d be curious what I looked like at this moment. I wasn’t expecting this turn in the conversation, especially as her statement didn’t seem empirically accurate, but I quickly remembered my mother�s excellent social advice, nodded and said . . . “Interesting.”
Aunt Rose then leaned back and asked, “Do you think there will be a third world war?”
An interesting question! I must confess I was a bit flattered that she would ask my opinion on the future. After considering for a moment I began my answer, translating my political science training into a layman’s terms, “I don’t foresee another world war like the ones we’ve seen in the past. There may be global conflict but I don’t think it will be armies of millions battling other armies of millions.”
Then I paused again trying to think about how to converse with this interesting woman about the decline of the nation-state when she leaned forward again and said:
“I can see you think there won’t be a third world war. I think there will be a third world war. The prophesies predict it will happen within the next 15 years.”
I would be even more curious to know what my face looked like at that moment.
“Which prophesies would those be?” I said in with what I can only hope was a tone of sincere inquiry.
“Well those of Nostradamus although he was wrong about the San Francisco earthquake in 2002.” Then in a grandmotherly tone she said “Most people think that it will be the war of the Tribulation but I think they are two different wars separated by a period of peace. All the prophesies point to it.”
“Which prophesies are these again?” I ventured.
“Oh” she said with a wave of her hand, “I used to live in St. Louis and I read the Catholic prophesies in the seminary library.”
We talked a few minutes about her spiritual journey before another family member called me away to show me something interesting. While I doubted it could be more interesting than Aunt Rose I took him up on his offer.
Our conversation made me think about my role in teaching political science. I wonder about what forms people’s opinions about international affairs and about how much say they actually have in policy. It was an interesting conversation for sure.